Anyone should be 'any-one' as far as I'm concerned, I think dividing 'any' seems pointless. That may not be gramtically correct, but to me it makes sense.
Anyone should be 'any-one' as far as I'm concerned, I think dividing 'any' seems pointless. That may not be gramtically correct, but to me it makes sense.
I think the problem here is we seem to have different ideas of what constitutes a syllable. I'm not sure what your definition is, but I don't think it's correct. To my knowledge, a syllable in English can't contain more than one vowel soundd, unless they are directly adjacent, as in a diphthong. But that is clearly not the case here: 'any' contains two vowel sounds separated by a consonant sound, therefore I can't see how it could be counted as one syllable.
Regarding correct syllable division as 'pointless', I am at a loss. What do you mean? What do you see are the intentions of syllable division anyway? And why does 'any.one' have more of a point than 'a.ny.one'?
Grammar fascism is so 'my-first-messageboard'.
Please forgive my phonological fascism (if, indeed, this discussion has seemed fascist to you). It was kindly and sincerely meant.
Of course I wasn't implying your post was fascistic in any way, but I generally do get annoyed about gramatical wrangling on the internet, seeing as its a much more instant form of communication than the academic essay.
Again, I said that I would happily admit to it being in breach of grammar rules, I just like 'any' better as being one syllable. Doesn't linguistics as a discipline (like all disciplines)have some kind of discursive power-relationship thingy happening with it anyway? At the end of the day, its really very unimportant, my haiku was a bit of an anti-haiku anyway.
Sometimes I feel the same way about Haiku as I do about Film-Star Buddhism and rock-musician veganism.
Of course I wasn't implying your post was fascistic in any way, but I generally do get annoyed about gramatical wrangling on the internet, seeing as its a much more instant form of communication than the academic essay.
Good. I didn't want to cause any bad feelings because of misunderstanding. :)
I'm kool with language error on the internet and on mobile telephones, as long as the outcome is successful in its communication. This situation was probably a little bit more volatile, because of the haiku-is-structurally-rigid belief. Feel free to look down on people because they correct internet users who use 'who' when 'whom' is typically appropriate (I look down on them too, but don't tell anyone. ;) ).
Sometimes I feel the same way about Haiku as I do about Film-Star Buddhism and rock-musician veganism.
I heartily agree with that sentiment. But I am sure Sky is sincere about it, so I'm endeavouring to enjoy her enthusiasm without trendy cynicism. :)
Even more bonus points for the clever miss here, since I am indeed most sincere about them. I want more people to endeavour to enjoy others' enthusiasm without trendy cynicism!
Plus, also, I don't really know when 'who' and 'whom' are, respectively, appropriate.
I accidentally admitted to not knowing the proper usages of 'whom' and 'who to my superviser, and he looked like he was going to cry because of it. The 'whom' thing has a name, but I don't understand all that English grammar jive talk.
*ahem* I would like it to be clear that my cynicism is not 'trendy', it will occasionally relate to a mistrust of 'trends' but I assure you all I'm only cynical about things I think deserve it. I'm certainly very sincere about music.
Also, clearly Sky is sincere about Haiku, which is commendable, even if she doesn't seem to want to post many of them. :P
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on 2005-09-16 06:20 pm (UTC)Anyone should be 'any-one' as far as I'm concerned, I think dividing 'any' seems pointless. That may not be gramtically correct, but to me it makes sense.
Grammar fascism is so 'my-first-messageboard'.
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on 2005-09-17 02:16 am (UTC)I think the problem here is we seem to have different ideas of what constitutes a syllable. I'm not sure what your definition is, but I don't think it's correct. To my knowledge, a syllable in English can't contain more than one vowel soundd, unless they are directly adjacent, as in a diphthong. But that is clearly not the case here: 'any' contains two vowel sounds separated by a consonant sound, therefore I can't see how it could be counted as one syllable.
Regarding correct syllable division as 'pointless', I am at a loss. What do you mean? What do you see are the intentions of syllable division anyway? And why does 'any.one' have more of a point than 'a.ny.one'?
Grammar fascism is so 'my-first-messageboard'.
Please forgive my phonological fascism (if, indeed, this discussion has seemed fascist to you). It was kindly and sincerely meant.
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on 2005-09-17 05:00 pm (UTC):-)
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on 2005-09-18 03:46 pm (UTC)Again, I said that I would happily admit to it being in breach of grammar rules, I just like 'any' better as being one syllable. Doesn't linguistics as a discipline (like all disciplines)have some kind of discursive power-relationship thingy happening with it anyway? At the end of the day, its really very unimportant, my haiku was a bit of an anti-haiku anyway.
Sometimes I feel the same way about Haiku as I do about Film-Star Buddhism and rock-musician veganism.
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on 2005-09-19 10:48 am (UTC)Good. I didn't want to cause any bad feelings because of misunderstanding. :)
I'm kool with language error on the internet and on mobile telephones, as long as the outcome is successful in its communication. This situation was probably a little bit more volatile, because of the haiku-is-structurally-rigid belief. Feel free to look down on people because they correct internet users who use 'who' when 'whom' is typically appropriate (I look down on them too, but don't tell anyone. ;) ).
Sometimes I feel the same way about Haiku as I do about Film-Star Buddhism and rock-musician veganism.
I heartily agree with that sentiment. But I am sure Sky is sincere about it, so I'm endeavouring to enjoy her enthusiasm without trendy cynicism. :)
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on 2005-09-20 02:25 am (UTC)Plus, also, I don't really know when 'who' and 'whom' are, respectively, appropriate.
I know shockingly little about grammar.
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on 2005-09-20 03:56 am (UTC)no subject
on 2005-09-20 05:19 am (UTC)Also, clearly Sky is sincere about Haiku, which is commendable, even if she doesn't seem to want to post many of them. :P
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on 2005-09-20 05:34 am (UTC)him:
I detest marking.
Ceteris Paribus, I'd
prefer to get smashed.
me:
Marking.
Ceteris paribus, I'd
rather have my latin
on sweaty dance floors.
(They are not really 'proper' haikus, but with Ceteris paribus, options are limited.)
Others are welcome to play!
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on 2005-09-20 11:08 am (UTC)no subject
on 2005-09-17 02:32 am (UTC)